Responses Pt.14

The hundred and ninety-sixth response;

Anonymous said…The police will do nothing because we will be on a public street exercising our First Amendment rights and not on private property. Your response proves that you do not understand the meaning of “fear”. Nor are you in touch with the real world. The real disease that afflicts the world is hate and fear through not understanding people of all walks of life, whether they be gay, of colored skin, Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Muslim/insert-any-other-religion-here, and so on. If America approves your amendment it would become a dictatorship because it will invite hate and fear for all forms of diversity let alone neurodiversity.

I repeat; you are a callous individual seeking the death of thousands to sate your own hatred of autism. That is not a winning effort. That is the ultimate in losing for life.
February 4, 2016 at 10:38 PM

Oliver Canby said…I do not want thousands of people to die, and you saying so is false. I am far more in touch with the real world than you are, and I definitely know what fear means. Autism and neurodiversity have nothing to do with anything that you mentioned. It is not a different walk of life; it is a disease. It should be compared with cancer and AIDS and Lou Gehrig’s disease, not what you mentioned. Neurodiversity is not a form of diversity. It is a cult, and it must be suppressed.

You will never find out where I live as my new address is not listed. If you do attempt to show up at my former address (which I still don’t believe you will), you will indeed be arrested. Harassment is a crime, and is not protected by the First Amendment, and distributing “wanted” posters could be considered a threat. I am not callous, and I do not want thousands of people to die. On the contrary, I want to give those people life by curing them of their autism. You are not to say such a thing ever again. You have been banned from this blog for the rest of your life.
February 5, 2016 at 1:21 AM


The hundred and ninety-seventh response;

Anonymous said…What a coward you are! Someone says something you don’t like and you ban them. Stop behaving like a child, douche!
February 5, 2016 at 3:48 PM

Oliver Canby said…I am not behaving like a child, and I welcome disagreement on this blog as long as it is civil. I banned the previous Anon not because I disagreed with him but because he made a very clear threat.
February 5, 2016 at 5:03 PM


The hundred and ninety-eighth response;

The Informer said…How about you dickhead anonymous? Talking of a coward! What’s your name huh??

Glucose is at it again on his Podcast, Oliver, and he’s found another target as well. Latest entry about it is on my blog.
February 6, 2016 at 8:51 PM

Oliver Canby said…Based on recent events, I am all but certain that there is no way he can ever touch me. All those anons are banned as they have done nothing but threaten me. Anyone who actually wants to have a real discussion is welcome here.
February 6, 2016 at 11:06 PM


The hundred and ninety-ninth responses;

Anonymous said…You wouldn’t know a real discussion if it hit you on the back of the head, fuck wit!
February 7, 2016 at 4:06 PM
(This comment was rejected by Oliver)

Discussion said…I’ll give you a real discussion, little boy. People will die because of your amendment. Look up Joe Scarborough’s comments. He spread fear over Autistic killers like Adam Lanza. Anyone who refuses a cure will be killed to stop them from killing as Lanza did, because of this fear. Autism Speaks have thrived because of this fear, and will fall because they are moving away from it. People want autism gone from society. Those who refuse a cure will stop this from happening. Discuss please, and understand that your proposal will kill people who don’t deserve to die because it ferments the fear of autism that exists, and exists to a very substantive level.
February 7, 2016 at 5:16 PM

Anonymous said…Real discussion? No one can have a real discussion with you unless they agree with you in everything you say. Forget it.
February 7, 2016 at 8:14 PM

Ruby said…The only people who can have a real discussion with you, Oliver, are those who understand what a horrible thing Autism is. You know it. I know it. These bastards don’t know and will never know. Have you seen them on Liemiester’s blog? It’s despicable!
February 7, 2016 at 9:51 PM

Anonymous said…Please provide proof of the progress of your proposal.
February 8, 2016 at 3:45 PM

Anonymous said…Oliver, do you believe a woman should not abort a pregnancy that results from a rape? Do you believe that a woman should die instead of abort if that is the only choice?
February 8, 2016 at 3:50 PM

Oliver Canby said…Discussion: You do not call me a little boy. I am a grown man. You are contributing to society’s misperception that autistic people are perpetual children who never really grow up, something that I am fighting against. If you repeat this behavior, you will lose your privilege to post here. I remember when Joe Scarborough made his statements, and they were after the killings of James Eagan Holmes, not Adam Lanza. Holmes has schizophrenia, not autism. Scarborough has a son with Asperger’s, so he would be the last person to demonize autism. He did not spread fear, nor was he even attempting to do so. He was simply bringing up the reality that many autistic people have violent tendencies, and that ignoring this fact does us no good. The world needs more people like him. Your statement about refusing a cure is utter hogwash. Autism Speaks does not promote fear either, only a cure. I have no idea why you think they will fall if they are moving away from that, as that would be contrary to your theory. People do not want autism gone from society. They want it cured. You are dead wrong in practically everything you said. Please provide at least one link to someone saying that they are scared of autism. Oh wait, that’s right. You can’t because it doesn’t exist.

Ruby: Oh believe me, I know. Autism is a horrible disease, and no amount of ND lies will change that fact.

I do oppose exceptions for rape and/or incest when it comes to abortion, because I don’t believe either one justifies murder. The unborn baby in that case is totally innocent, and does not deserve to die due to someone else’s horrible deed. There of course should be punishment, but it should be against the rapist, not the unborn baby. Also, it is extremely unlikely that a woman could get pregnant due to rape. As Congressman Todd Akin wonderfully said, “If it’s a legitimate rape, she has a way to shut that thing down.” Direct abortion is never necessary to save a woman, and science has proven that. However, if a woman’s life is in danger, I would support taking measures to save her life, even if the baby dies as a result.
February 8, 2016 at 6:38 PM


The two hundredth response;

Discussion said…http://thedailybanter.com/2014/05/when-will-msnbc-stop-joe-scarboroughs-lies-about-autism-and-violence/
Autism in the Media: Asperger’s Syndrome, Adam Lanza and the (Dis)association with Violence
From the second link (emphasis mine);
“I have friends whose children are autistic tell me that schools have tried to have their autistic children expelled and other families have had Child Protective Services called on them for the misunderstood behaviors of their children. In fact that seems to be typical thinking in the neurotypical world. if you don’t understand something that person and anyone associated with it should be castigated. It seems that neurotypical people are more prone to acting on assumptions of fear than on actual fact. I have come to associate neurotypical with being grossly ignorant of autism and making assumptions out of ignorance and fear. In the first few days after the shooting in Newtown. I have heard people discussing the fact that Adam Lanza has Aspergers despite this not being confirmed by any news organization. Some could be heard saying that they thought having autism made us dangerous. One person went so far as to say that we should be locked in cages. People have also told me that this was the first time they had ever heard of Asperger’s Syndrome, but were afraid of us.”

A very telling link that shows the very fear you claim doesn’t exist. Discuss.
February 8, 2016 at 7:52 PM

Oliver Canby said…I’m sorry, but that isn’t good enough. The post is very biased from an ND perspective, and is based on unsourced secondhand and thirdhand accounts. What I was looking for is a firsthand perspective of someone expressing their own fear of autism. Show me that, and I may believe that one ignorant idiot has that view.
February 8, 2016 at 9:22 PM


The two hundred and first responses;

Discussion said…You fear it.
February 8, 2016 at 10:29 PM

Discussion said…http://www.salon.com/2013/07/30/our_autism_phobia/
February 8, 2016 at 10:32 PM

Discussion said…http://www.howtolearn.com/2011/08/autism-the-diagnosis-parents-fear/
February 8, 2016 at 10:33 PM

Discussion said…http://www.fitpregnancy.com/pregnancy/labor-delivery/ask-labor-nurse/autism-anxiety
February 8, 2016 at 10:36 PM

Discussion said…Do you want any more? Or are you convinced that fear of autism exists? Discuss.
February 8, 2016 at 10:37 PM

Oliver Canby said…I have yet to read those links so I will get back to you later.
February 9, 2016 at 12:15 AM


The two hundred and second responses;

Angry Bitch said…YOU BASTARD!! If a girl gets raped why should she have to stay in touch with the fuck wit who raped her as would be his right as the father of the child?? HUH?? Do us a favour and go drown yourself. You’ve got no respect for women!!
February 9, 2016 at 4:30 PM
(This comment was rejected by Oliver)

Discussion said…Well? I’m waiting.
February 10, 2016 at 3:04 PM

Oliver Canby said…I still haven’t read them, but I very much doubt these people fear autism in the way that you claim.
February 10, 2016 at 3:19 PM


The two hundred and third response;

Discussion said…They do. Many do. Please read the articles and understand and accept that fear of autism is widespread. Why do you think there was a Combating Autism Act to begin with? In response to the fear of autism.
February 10, 2016 at 3:25 PM

Oliver Canby said…That statement right there just ruined your credibility. The Combating Autism Act was created to cure autism, not because of fear.
February 10, 2016 at 3:56 PM


The two hundred and fourth responses;

Discussion said…The demand to cure autism is out of fear of autism. If they didn’t fear autism they wouldn’t want it cured. What other reason is there?
February 10, 2016 at 5:23 PM

Anonymous said…So you don’t fear cancer? You don’t fear AIDS?
February 10, 2016 at 6:31 PM

Oliver Canby said…Yes, of course cancer and AIDS should be feared as diseases, and so should autism. The Discussion is trying to frame it as a form of discrimination when that is not what it is. The reason that scientists are still working on a cure for autism is because it is a disease that inhibits the lives of those who suffer from it. It should be feared as a disease, but not in the sense of demonizing the people who have it.
February 10, 2016 at 11:51 PM


The two hundred and fifth response;

Discussion said…Yes it is discrimination. The United Nations covenant of the rights of the disabled person are very clear. Autism isn’t a disease because you can not catch it and it doesn’t kill if it is left untreated. Please link me to the scientists who are working on a cure, and please discuss the links I provided. You also failed to explain the distinction between the fear of autism and the demand for a cure.
February 11, 2016 at 2:09 PM

Oliver Canby said…No, it’s not. The UN also recognizes Autism Awareness Day of which the goal is to find a cure. That is not mutually exclusive with disability rights. On the contrary, to deny an autistic person a cure would be a violation of their human rights. Autism is indeed a disease, and your definition of a disease is incorrect. Also, you can catch autism (through vaccines), and it can kill if nor properly managed (many wanderers have been needlessly killed by either freezing to death or being run over by a car). Both Autism Speaks and the Autism Science Foundation are funding research into a cure. The fact that Autism Speaks has appeased neurodiversity by hiring two token autistic board members does not change this. The demand for a cure is simply to fight a disease. Fear (in the way you describe it) would be prejudice against the autistic person (not the disease), and that of course is a bad thing.
February 12, 2016 at 12:43 AM


The two hundred and sixth response;

Anonymous said…You’re crazy! You lied in everything you just said! You’re a dangerous terrorist and I’m going to kill you to protect Los Angeles from a San Bernadino copycat!! It’s my duty as an American, you traitor!!
February 12, 2016 at 1:52 AM

Oliver Canby said…Somebody might need to look in the mirror……
February 12, 2016 at 2:46 AM


The two hundred and seventh responses;

Discussion said…Yes, Oliver. You. Because you did not tell the truth in your last reply to me. I don’t agree that you are a traitor to America as the anonymous person said, and I don’t think you’re a terrorist either. But he or she was right in the second sentence. If you insist on not telling the truth we have nothing to discuss.
February 12, 2016 at 5:59 PM

The Informer said…Another death threat against Oliver? This is fucking insane!
February 12, 2016 at 6:25 PM

Oliver Canby said…Discussion: I speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help me God. I have done my absolute best to remain civil with you, but you are really starting to push my patience here. My statements are of course true, and they are backed up by scientific evidence. Yours are nothing more than hyperbole, and you failed to cite a specific example that outlawing neurodiversity would lead to innocent deaths.

Informer: If that idiot wants me dead, I guess I must be doing something right.
February 13, 2016 at 12:16 AM


The two hundred and eighth responses;

Science said…https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/new-meta-analysis-confirms-no-association-between-vaccines-and-autism
Vaccines Don’t Cause Autism, Even in Kids at Higher Risk
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X14006367
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/searching-for-answers/vaccines-autism
http://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/

Scientific evidence that you are wrong. You can’t catch autism through vaccines.
February 13, 2016 at 2:10 PM

Science said…http://www.un.org/en/events/autismday/2010/sgmessage.shtml
http://www.un.org/en/events/autismday/2011/sgmessage.shtml
http://www.un.org/en/events/autismday/2012/sgmessage.shtml
http://www.un.org/en/events/autismday/2013/sgmessage.shtml
http://www.un.org/en/events/autismday/2014/sgmessage.shtml
http://www.un.org/en/events/autismday/2015/sgmessage.shtml

Not one mention of a cure.
February 13, 2016 at 2:12 PM

Science said…Autism is listed in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD) as a disorder AKA a related health problem, not a disease. (Section V Code F84)
February 13, 2016 at 2:27 PM

Science said…Please list one public report from a coroner that blames autism for the death of a child or adult.
February 13, 2016 at 2:29 PM

Anonymous said…You’re doing something wrong, traitor! You’re doing everything wrong! Including living!
February 13, 2016 at 9:01 PM

Oliver Canby said…Wow, another idiot. Someone might need a 5150.
February 13, 2016 at 10:45 PM


The two hundred and ninth response;

Science said…Are you afraid of being proven wrong? Where are the links I gave you?
February 13, 2016 at 11:00 PM

Oliver Canby said…I’m not going to respond to any of those.
February 14, 2016 at 12:02 AM


The two hundred and tenth response;

Anonymous said…You need a 5150.
February 15, 2016 at 1:06 AM

Oliver Canby said…Once again, the pot is calling the kettle black.
February 15, 2016 at 11:19 AM

This concludes Part 14.